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The weaning process
August 6th, 2009 by Tiff

I think that I am the president of the “I hate Prednisone” club.

While this little corticosteroid has it’s place in the medical world and definitely (unfortunately) in the life of my almost four year old daughter, I still loathe it.

Ivy has been on this medication now for about 18 months and it supresses her adrenal gland. She is so badly supressed now that her cortisol levels were last sitting around 3 and the normal is about 250.

Adrenal supression is not fun.

It messes with everything.

Blood sugar levels, ability to cope with stress and illness, the list goes on and on.

Coming off Prednisone, after you have been on it for a prolonged time is no easy task as we are finding out.

Ivy has twice landed herself in a type of adrenal crisis where her body is unable to pick up the slack of the reduced steroid.

Her heart rate skyrockets, her activity levels decline, she becomes lethargic. She vomits and gets diarrhoea and is generally unwell.

Try as we might, we always end up pushing the prednisone back up because, when she is thread bare like that, she gets sick and when she gets sick, her cortisol needs are higher.

We are kind of on this horrible medical round - a - bout that spins so fast somedays, the world bleeds into a sea of colours just passing us by.

I would take all the prednisone and adrenal complications in the world if it meant we could avoid my most hated of Ivy’s conditions:

The Pemphigus.

Pemphigus is a nasty little auto immune disease where Ivy’s body essentially rejects itself.

The way it presents is by creating huge bullous lesions (really big tense blisters) on her body. These burst and slough away, leaving raw skin. This then becomes a hard leathery layer that peels away. My best visual description is that it is like a deep burn.

As Ives gets older, she can feel a cycle coming on and will complain of burning or tingling days before we see any signs that an attack is on the way.

The prednisone helps but when she is very unwell and her cortisol needs go up there are breakthrough blisters.

The worst part, for her, I think is the pain.

For me, it’s seeing her in pain and knowing there is very little I can do to stop it.

All the immunologists and infectious diseases doctors are up in arms because Ivy has not been able to wean from the pred and the other immune supressant she takes. They feel that it is a bit of a catch 22 having an immune deficient child on immune supressants.

They’re right of course.

Those two medications are not helping with her ability to fight off infection.

I wonder though, if they could hear her sob at night because she can’t lie comfortably in bed, if she were their child, who holds on all day because she is worried (at the grand old age of almost four) that the urine will sting the red raw and blistered skin on her backside and legs so badly she can’t stand up, if they would be so quick to wean and so judgemental when they were unable to.

As of tonight our fast wean of the steroid has failed again, in fact the steroid has been doubled to try to control an outbreak of the pemphigus, which preceded an adrenal crisis.

Tomorrow we are going to see the immunologist so we can hear again how we are doing wrong by our girl by keeping her on the prednisone.

Tonight I think we are doing wrong by her, trying to wean her off it.

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26 Responses  
katef (188 comments.) writes:
August 6th, 2009 at 22:32

tears for you and your girl…. it is a horrible horrible thing.. both the pemphigus and the pred that keeps it under control, but how to do you choose between two totally evil things???

shygirl writes:
August 7th, 2009 at 00:29

poor Ivy, the medication merry-go-round is awful. You would think with all those learned doctors, SOMEONE would be able to coordinate all her med’s. I hope it all comes together soon for you.

Liz (18 comments.) writes:
August 7th, 2009 at 01:12

Such a brave little girl. You can see her spirit in her eyes in the pictures of her that you post. I hope hope hope that you find a way to resolve this and make her comfortable. In the meantime, I send a good ol’ virtual hug to you both.

Ness @ Drovers Run (11 comments.) writes:
August 7th, 2009 at 03:03

I’m not a religious person. But tonight I’m praying for your little girl, because DAY-YAM, no sweet innocent child needs to go through that.

Amy writes:
August 7th, 2009 at 05:26

Oh, poor Ivy :( I’m so sorry for her pain. I hope the immunologist has something useful for you today. xx

Dina (95 comments.) writes:
August 7th, 2009 at 06:22

I’m so sorry.

I’ll try to keep thinking positive thoughts for you guys.

It’s so sad, unfair, and horrible : (

Mary writes:
August 7th, 2009 at 07:07

Will be thinking of you today when you see the imm.

Alison (141 comments.) writes:
August 7th, 2009 at 07:56

Thinking of you both.

Blossom writes:
August 7th, 2009 at 08:24

I wish i had more words……..but this is just awful…for Ivy and you.
sigh………I so want the drs to get their act together and DO something for this poor child.

holding you close and sending positive thoughts for the imm.
Blossom
who is totally pissed she can’t come today………..large sigh………..

Katie (35 comments.) writes:
August 7th, 2009 at 09:11

It must be very difficult to be in that vicious cycle - Ivy is such a brave little girl, I can’t believe what she has to go through at such a young age. I hope things get better and these doctors can really do something life-changing for her (and you and the family too, because you are all affected). Thinking of you and your family today.

Veronica (506 comments.) writes:
August 7th, 2009 at 09:43

Oh Tiff, I’m not sure there are any words.

Carleen (27 comments.) writes:
August 7th, 2009 at 10:34

your blog should be compulsory reading for all dr’s treating Ivy -maybe then they’d get it…You are all so brave.

Jennette writes:
August 7th, 2009 at 13:39

I am so sad for Ivy. I can not imagine what it is like for you.
there is nothing I can say. I wish I could help.
My heart goes out to Ivy and to all her family watching her suffer.
You are in my thoughts Tiff. Sending you strength across the internet….

lceel (337 comments.) writes:
August 7th, 2009 at 21:58

I don’t know what to say. Ivy.

Xbox4NappyRash (314 comments.) writes:
August 8th, 2009 at 02:23

wishing you extra strength Tiff.

Hyphen Mama (305 comments.) writes:
August 8th, 2009 at 07:57

I’m not sure I could deal with her doctors very well. I’d be known as that “Crazy woman who yells at doctors”. You’re right… what would they do were it THEIR daughter? Ask them that. Ask them what they would do at 2am when their baby couldn’t sleep because of the pain. Ask them what they would do all day long when she won’t use the toilet because she’s afraid of the outcome. Don’t let the doctors make you feel bad… get pissed off and ask them what THEY HAVE DONE TO FIX THIS. They should be the ones not sleeping at night.

I’m angry at them for you.

sunnyroadmum (23 comments.) writes:
August 8th, 2009 at 18:09

Oh Tiff, I hate that you are stuck in such a difficult position. It’s so not fair. I think when you first started blogging about the pemphigus was about when I started reading your blog. I’m so sad that this is still a complication of the medication and illness. ((hugs)) and here’s hoping the immunologist’s plan is effective xoxo

river writes:
August 8th, 2009 at 18:49

This certainly is a vicious circle for Ivy (and you). Is it possible to wean her off the Prednisone at a slower rate? To allow her body to adjust. I’m so sorry the pemphigus has made a return.

Bec (24 comments.) writes:
August 8th, 2009 at 20:49

Poor Ivy and your family :( That’s just terrible :(

Jientje (20 comments.) writes:
August 9th, 2009 at 02:30

Hugs Tiff. I wish a hug and sending you guys good vibes would help. I truly wish that.

achelois (53 comments.) writes:
August 9th, 2009 at 10:42

I can’t really explain how I feel on reading this post, that my words are inadequate is a small description…. Like others here I just want Ivy to improve and the stress disappear for you all. In the meantime please accept a virtual hug and know that even from the otherside of the world here in the UK you have bloggers like me willing things to get better.

Lisa writes:
August 10th, 2009 at 17:03

I got tears in my eyes imagining your beautiful little girl holding on. I think of you all the time, and how much you have to cope with, and how wonderful and brave you and your little girl are. How you hang in there, through every crisis. I hope and pray all the time for a dramatic improvement in Ivy’s health. Sending you much love and hugs from far, far away.

Susan (4 comments.) writes:
August 11th, 2009 at 05:47

I’ll be praying for your family and for Ivy. I hope the immunologist pulls through for you. We have experience with prednisone and will join your “hate prednisone” party:)

I just found your blog- I’m also a mom of 7, the two littlest are chronically ill with an as-of-yet unclassified genetic disorder. Your blog “Torn” especially resonated with me. With few words, and great pictures you expressed exactly what I feel every time we are in the hospital.

Barbara (156 comments.) writes:
August 11th, 2009 at 05:50

I don’t know what to say. It sounds so awful. I’m so sorry.

Sarah Jane writes:
August 11th, 2009 at 16:08

For the pain with peeing, try having her pee while sitting in lukewarm water. (In the bathtub, a washtub, whatever she fits.) The water will immediately dilute the urine as it comes out so it won’t sting. Also make sure she’s drinking a lot to keep it as dilute as possible.

Miss Ash (57 comments.) writes:
August 14th, 2009 at 03:46

I feel so helpless reading this, Tiff. All I can do is send healthy thoughts her way, and that I’ve been doing for the last year… my heart breaks for you. Know that we love you guys and support you (at least by way of computer) as much as we can!!

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